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After Law lords outlaw 'anti-terror' laws as being discriminatory,
Charles Clarke MP announces laws will be the same for ALL UK residents

Anti-Terrorism Control Orders?
Now everyone is treated with equal contempt

British terrorism suspects could be put under a series of controls stretching from limits on internet communication to de facto house arrest under plans announced today by Charles Clarke, the home secretary.

In response to a law lords ruling that the detention without trial of 12 foreign nationals was disproportionate and discriminatory, Mr Clarke said the system of control orders intended to replace those powers could now apply to both British citizens and foreign nationals.

The control orders will include curfews, electronic tagging and even a requirement for suspects "to remain at their premises". Mr Clarke told the Commons their scope took account of the "more significant role" British nationals were playing in the terror threat. - Guardian

Summary of the Proposals for Control Order Legislation:

* There are two types of Control orders - higher level (house arrest) and lower level.
* Only house arrest constitutes a deprivation of liberty according to the Home Office. Liberty does not share this view.

Higher Level Control Orders (house arrest):

* The decision to implement a higher level control order- house arrest- will be taken by the Home Secretary on the basis of secret intelligence advice (not available to the suspect).
* Within seven days the case is automatically referred to a High Court Judge for a ‘Judicial Conformation Procedure'.
* This procedure follows a SIAC type model (special advocates, closed sessions, etc).
* The test for Judicial Conformation is balance of probability.

Lower Level Control Orders:

* Lower level orders include restrictions such as electronic tagging.
* The Home Secretary makes the decision on the basis of secret intelligence advice (not available to the suspect).
* There is an appeal to a SIAC type commission.
* This involves special advocates, closed material, etc as before.
* The test is reasonable suspicion.

There is no time by which the subject must be put on trial.

* The Government proposes to pass the legislation but not activate the house arrest control orders until further notice.
* On this basis the Government believes that no derogation from human rights principles is ‘currently' necessary.

Plans to detain terror suspects under house arrest without trial are vital because of the continuing threat to UK interests, the home secretary has said...

Control orders for all UK residents?

800 years of fair trial to be overturned in 14 days

Commenting on Government proposals to rush ‘control orders' through Parliament despite growing opposition Shami Chakrabarti, Director of Liberty, said:

"Eight hundred years of the right to a fair trial in this country could be overturned within fourteen days.

The presumption of innocence, like innocence itself, is easier lost than regained.

There has rarely been a more important time for people of all parties and none to stand up for Britain's democratic traditions." - Liberty

Clarke reveals anti-terror plan

Anti-terror plans survive MP vote

read the liberty anti-terror and ID card bill summary here PDF

Here is the actual UK Prevention of Terrorism Bill 2005

"This is a glimpse of the terrifying future where everyone may be subjected to detention on the basis of secret intelligence and a politician's whim." - Shami Chakrabarti, Liberty

Lords defeat Government?

The Government suffered a major blow over its plans to crack down on terrorism tonight, when peers voted to ensure that all control orders enforcing a range of restrictions on suspects, will be made by a judge.

Voting was 249 to 119, majority 130 during the detailed committee stage of the Prevention of Terrorism Bill.

The decision means that the courts rather than the Home Secretary would have to authorise the restrictions ranging from electronic tagging, curfews and phone bans to full house arrest. - scotsman

What evidence will a judge be shown?

How do you plead?
Guilty or Not-Guilty?

For what, your honour?

Shhhhh! Secret can't tell

Trust NO-ONE!

Flashback: Police say they want citizens to call a special hotline to report suspected terrorists. In particular, police say, landlords, hotel operators and auto dealers should be alert to people seeking short-term accommodations, or who pay large sums of cash for a vehicle."VOA

"British police have set up an anti-terrorist hotline for the public to report suspicious activity as new questions arise over Britain's ability to handle a Madrid-style terrorist attack. Police say the objective of their new anti-terrorism campaign is to turn Britain into what one senior officer calls "the most hostile environment" for terrorist activity.


Anti-Social Behaviour Orders

New Labour is handing out Anti-Social Behaviour Orders (ASBOs) like confetti. ASBOs are effectively banning orders. They can be served on people (usually young people) to restrict them from going to a certain place, associating with particular people, or even dressing in a certain way.

There are already laws against the behaviour most of us describe as anti-socialsmashing up bus shelters, for example. ASBOs are something else. They are a restriction on someones freedom even where there is no proof they have committed a crime. An ASBO is not a criminal charge. But breaking the terms of an order is a criminal offence that can lead to five years in jail.

The kind of restrictions being placed on people are incredible. One man who was born and brought up in Brent, and still living there, was banned FOR LIFE from setting foot in the borough. Others, in their teens, have more local banning orders, but they last for up to 25 years. In one case a group of young people were banned from having any contact with one another, and barred from a part of the borough. - Beccy Palmer Indymedia

Army run youth camps

Military bases will open their doors to young criminals and children who are at risk of offending for voluntary day and weekend camps next year.

The venture aims to help youngsters aged between eight and 17 get their lives back on track.

Three pilot projects, run by the Youth Justice Board and Ministry of Defence, will include exercise and education.


The YJB oversees the youth justice system on behalf of the government.

American boot camps are more intense than the pilot projects Its outreach workers will identify young offenders aged between 10 and 17 who would benefit from the courses.

The same staff, during multi-agency discussions, will also identify children aged eight to 13 who have not committed a crime but are at risk of offending. - BBC

On-the-spot fines create a new class of 'semi-criminals'

Penalty notices for disorder (PNDs),

under which offenders are fined for misdemeanours such as drunkenness or littering, have become a new weapon in the Government's fight against petty crime and anti-social behaviour. Offenders are fined between £30 and £80, with the amount increasing by 50 per cent if they fail to pay within three weeks.

But in a withering assessment of the new system, coinciding with the first anniversary on Friday of the fines being introduced nationwide, a leading criminal justice think-tank accused the Government of "putting punishment before justice". The Crime and Society Foundation warned: "PNDs erode justice in the name of speedier punishment."

The foundation fears that people who pay such fines, in the mistaken belief that they are not an admission of guilt, could have the fact of payment used against them in future. Police can add their DNA, fingerprints and photographs to the national police computer even though they have not admitted any wrong-doing.

"This risks creating a new 'semi-criminal' class, those with no formal criminal record yet deemed to be offenders," it says.

They face being put on the fast-track to arrest, prosecution and punishment in what is, in effect, a justice-free zone, it says. Because it operates outside the constraints of criminal justice, it removes important protections for members of the public. - Independent

Most Britons support Asbos - survey

The vast majority of Britons support the anti-social behaviour orders introduced by the Government to tackle street yobbery, nuisance neighbours and vandalism, according to a survey. But half of them doubt whether the orders - Asbos - are actually having an effect in changing behaviour.

According to the details of the Mori survey, broadcast on BBC2's Newsnight, while 82% of those questioned said they supported Asbos, only 39% thought they were effective compared to 46% who did not.

Asbos were introduced by the Home Office in 1999. Around 2,500 have been issued in the past four years, with widely varying rates of use in different parts of the country.

Some police forces have been enthusiastic about the new powers, but concerns have been raised about their fairness - most notably this week by the EU human rights commissioner Alvaro Gil Robles. Opponents complain that breaches of the orders can lead to spells in jail for relatively minor misdemeanours.

High-profile cases have seen Asbos slapped on an elderly peace campaigner and a woman who kept coming to the door in her underwear.

Louise Casey, head of the Government's Anti-Social Behaviour Unit, said that in every case the orders were issued by courts after lengthy efforts to secure better behaviour by those causing complaints.

She told Newsnight: "Eighty-two per cent of the general public think Asbos are a good thing, and that is because it is common sense.

"We need to tackle anti-social behaviour. We know they are effective because every single place I go in the country, people tell me they are effective.

"And most importantly, the British Crime Survey ... says very clearly that anti-social behaviour is on a downwards trend." - ananova

Alexander Muat - The oldest recipient of an order to date, at 87 years of age, he is, among other things, forbidden from being sarcastic to his neighbours (July 2003) Update: He has since been found guilty of breaking the terms of his order on three separate occasions. Sentencing will take place on 13 November but the judge has already made clear that: "There will be no prison for an 88-year-old-man." (October 2004) statewatch

Flashback: 1999 ASBOS for children???

Children targeted by anti-social order

The orders will target children aged between 10 and 17

March 16, 1999 - Children as young as 10 will be subject to the government's new anti-social behaviour orders, Home Secretary Jack Straw has revealed.

Introducing his measures in the Commons, Mr Straw said the government was determined to put right the lack of effective remedies to combat "serious and persistent anti-social behaviour in our communities".

The Tories gave the measures a cautious welcome, but said Mr Straw's statement was largely a re-hash of old announcements. The home secretary told MPs the new anti-social behaviour orders will be used against anyone over the age of 10 whom the courts believe is likely to cause "harassment, alarm or distress to others".

They may take the form of curfews or the prohibition of going to certain places or associating with certain people. They will come into effect from 1 April.

Stiff penalties

Breaking the order will be punishable by up to five years in prison or an unlimited fine. Mr Straw expects those aged between 12 to 17 will be the main targets for the new orders.

They will also be against those who police believe are guilty of racist abuse.

Jack Straw: Heated exchange with residents ...The home secretary then detailed a programme of crime prevention which he said was the largest in this or any other country. He said over £170m of new money would be put into a programme to tackle crime hot-spots. The plans will target the two million homes in the UK most affected by crime.

Following up the chancellor's announcement in last week's Budget that a further £150m will be made available for crime prevention, Mr Straw said the total funds for the crime reduction programme added up to over £400m.

CCTV expansion

The home secretary said some of the funds would be ploughed into a network of close-circuit television cameras in housing estates, bus and railway stations.

Tories say CCTV won't replace Bobbie on the beat

He said CCTV would deter crime as it was like, "having a number of police officers permanently on the beat, with eyes in the back of their heads and an incontrovertible record of what they have seen." Responding to the statement Shadow Home Secretary Sir Norman Fowler said: "Certainly you need CCTV but you also need police on the beat. "And our fundamental criticism of this government is that they are cutting back the police." He added that CCTV apart Mr Straw had simply re-announced old polices.

Clash with locals

Earlier, Mr Straw, alongside local councillors and police officers, was confronted by several residents and workers during a visit to north London. The home secretary was told that his new measures needed backing-up with more facilities for bored youths.

Caretaker Sharon Walters told Mr Straw - who served on the local council 25 years ago - about gangs of youths up to 40 strong who roam around harassing and intimidating locals.

She said: "We have got untold youths here who have got nowhere to go and nowhere to turn. "It's unfair on children - how can we expect them to behave themselves when they don't enjoy a good standard of life?"

Mr Straw replied that rowdy behaviour directed against other people could not be excused. He added that: "The bad behaviour of these kids stops with these kids and their parents and that's just true. "If I felt that putting a youth club on every estate corner would solve the problem of youth crime, I would do it tomorrow," he said. - BBC


Authority considers school Asbos

Schools in a Nottinghamshire could soon be issuing anti-social behaviour orders in the classroom. The Chief Executive of Mansfield District Council, Richard Goad, said the move is in response to violence and disruption among some pupils.

He says it is being looked at elsewhere in the country but admits Mansfield would be pioneers of the scheme.

The advantage of the orders would be that, unlike standard exclusions, they would apply outside the school.

Restrictions imposed

Mr Goad said: "At the moment if a child is excluded they just go down the town and they are quite happy. "An anti-social behaviour order will apply both inside and outside the school it will be applied though the court and the person, the child, will end up in corrective treatment if they don't react."

Brian Halliwell, Notts secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said: "The affect of an Asbo comes down to the restrictions it imposes. "We would support any measure to keep a child in an appropriate educational establishment." - bbc.co.uk

Labour Party Conference: On-the-spot ASBO powers proposed

05/10/05 - The Government is considering giving police controversial powers to issue on-the-spot antisocial behaviour orders (ASBO).

In his speech to the Labour Party conference, Prime Minister Tony Blair said the Government will publish plans to develop existing antisocial behaviour law by the end of the year. He said this will include "a radical extension of summary powers to police and the local authorities".

Hazel Blears, the minister in charge of antisocial behaviour, said that the Government is exploring the idea of using street bail to take immediate action. This would involve a suspect being given a condition similar to the condition of an ASBO when they are given bail.

But other ministers appeared to be pushing for a more liberal approach to dealing with antisocial behaviour. Maria Eagle, the junior youth minister, said that although she backed the use of ASBOs, "they have turned into something that they were not quite intended to be". She said there are different views on whether ASBOs should be given to young people and "room for debate" on whether a breach of an ASBO should result in a young person being locked up. ypnmagazine

Control order flaws exposed First interview with ex-detainee reveals a regime that leaves him in despair : Ex-detainee exposes flaws in terror control orders

Audrey Gillan and Faisal al Yafai Thursday March 24, 2005 The Guardian

The bizarre world of the government's controversial anti-terrorist control orders was yesterday revealed when one of the 10 men who had been detained in high-security institutions for more than three years walked into the Guardian offices without any security escort.

Highlighting the stark contradictions in the control orders, Mahmoud Abu Rideh, who had been detained without charge and trial in Belmarsh prison and Broadmoor psychiatric hospital, is kept under house arrest at night, but is able to roam freely under tagging during the day.

The Palestinian refugee, who was held for three-and-a-half years, says he cannot understand the double standards of the order, and said it was further exacerbating his psychiatric difficulties. He has been diagnosed as mentally ill.

In the first interview from any of the 10 detainees placed under control orders, he said: "I go everywhere now - on the underground, buses, the mosque. But I must be home by 7pm. People think I am dangerous, but I am not dangerous. The government is playing games. If I am a risk to security, why are they letting me out to be with people? I wouldn't do anything silly. I am not a dangerous man."

Mr Abu Rideh's control order says he is a key UK-based contact and provider of financial and logistical support to extreme Islamists with connections to al-Qaida. It says: "You belonged to and have provided support for a network of north African extremists directly involved in terrorist planning in the UK, including the use of toxic chemicals."

Mr Abu Rideh denies this is the case.

The control orders were rushed through parliament earlier this month in the face of widespread opposition. The contradictions inherent in them are clear from Mr Abu Rideh's experiences since being released on bail almost two weeks ago:

· He is not allowed to make arrangements to meet anybody, but he can drop in to see anyone if he does so unannounced;

· He cannot attend any pre-arranged meetings or gatherings, but was present at the anti-war demonstration at Hyde Park last Saturday. He says he stumbled across it while playing football in the park with his children;

· He is banned from having visitors to his home unless they are vetted in advance, but he is allowed to arrange to attend group prayers at a mosque;

· He thinks he is being followed on the tube, but if he calls a taxi, no one tails him.

Mr Abu Rideh told the Guardian that his confusion over how the control orders work, and his lack of support, led him to take a drug overdose last weekend. He was taken to Charing Cross hospital after he swallowed 35 tablets and was not released until Monday evening. He says he cannot bear to live under the conditions imposed by the home secretary.

He said: "I only want to kill myself. I don't want to kill anybody else. I am not a danger to anybody else, but this government has made me a danger to myself. It is just as bad to be free with a control order as it is in Belmarsh prison or Broadmoor hospital."

The control orders authorised by the home secretary, Charles Clarke, caused a parliamentary crisis two weeks ago and were only shunted through after 30 hours of ferocious tussling between the two houses and a compromise on the part of the government.

The 10 men include Abu Qatada, the Islamist preacher who has been described by a judge as a truly dangerous individual who was "at the centre of UK terrorist activities associated with al-Qaida".

At the time of the parliamentary debate, the Home Office said that the 10 released men were still a risk to national security. This week, lawyers for Mr Abu Rideh and the other men began a legal challenge to the control orders. They told a high court judge that the orders were confused and difficult to work with, saying: "It has been continuous crisis management for the past 10 days."

Yesterday, Mr Abu Rideh explained some of these problems. "The conditions are too complicated and they don't work. The Home Office emergency number doesn't work. I phoned Fulham police station and they said it's not their problem," he said. He claims that the voice recognition system operated by the tagging company, Premier Monitoring Services, does not work and the Guardian found that the Home Office control order hotline was an answering machine. Mr Abu Rideh is so frustrated that he has threatened to take direct action similar to Fathers4Justice. He said: "I will go to Big Ben and make a demonstration, I will chain myself to the railings of the high court or the House of Commons. My lawyer has told me not to, but if I don't get justice I will."

The transition from being in Belmarsh and then in a hospital with the criminal mentally ill to being at home with his wife and five children is prov-ing to be fraught. "I think they will arrest me again. My kids worry that when they get back from school I will be gone and they might not find me again. My wife can't sleep. She is asking me not to go out."

Surprise searches by Scotland Yard officers leave his family on edge, he said, and his wife sleeps fully clothed in case of any eventuality. He complained that officers rifled through his wife's underwear drawer. "That's wrong in anybody's culture," he said. "I asked them, What are you searching there, do you think I have a bomb in my house, do you think I would kill my kids?"

But the most frustrating thing of all is that, despite being called an international terrorist by the government, he has never been told where he crossed the line.

He said: "I want to talk to whoever locked me up. Talk to me. Tell me, why? See my face, see my body. But I can't find anybody to talk to me."

A spokesperson for Premier said the company could not discuss individual cases.

Curfews? Military on the streets? er...Martial law? anyone care?

Now happy hour ends with 'martial law'

By David Bamber (Filed: 19/06/2005) - Ministers have ordered the Army on to the streets to join an all-out summer campaign against anti-social drunken and violent behaviour by yobs. Military police and ordinary uniformed soldiers will help keep youths under control in up to 20 towns and cities near military barracks. More than 230 locations have been listed for special police measures. The strategy comes as police forces in more than 230 towns and cities begin a clampdown on disorderly behaviour by alcohol-fuelled youngsters, in response to a Home Office survey showing a disturbing rise in youth crime.

Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, has asked the Ministry of Defence to support police forces around the country after an experiment in Royston, Hertfordshire, where uniformed Redcaps - military police - were deployed to crack down on late-night violence by drunken yobs. As well as dealing with off-duty soldiers from a nearby base, they targeted civilians in the non-garrison town.

Their patrols were judged a success and the Redcaps are now seen regularly on the streets, alongside Hertfordshire beat police, in the small market town, where local officers have welcomed them. One officer said that although the military police are armed only with a baton similar to that used by ordinary police, their uniforms and military training deter antics from getting out of hand.

Until this experiment, military police, who have the same powers of arrest as ordinary police officers, have patrolled only in major military centres such as Aldershot, Colchester and Catterick. Now regular patrols will begin in towns and cities near military bases.

A spokesman for Liberty, the civil rights organisation, expressed concern. She said: "Until now the Armed Forces have only been used on the streets of Northern Ireland in recent years and we need to be very careful about using them on the mainland in peacetime."

A senior Ministry of Defence official said: "We do not expect hundreds of troops on the streets but we would think the very presence of unarmed troops will deter bad behaviour."

Ordinary soldiers have no powers of arrest and will not directly intervene in boisterous behaviour, but will act as a "calming and pacifying" influence, say Home Office officials. They would only intervene directly in the unlikely event of widespread civil disturbance. Military police are fully trained to deal with civilian disturbances.

More than 230 towns and cities including Blackpool, Brighton, Manchester, Birmingham and several London boroughs, have been listed for special police measures this summer. Extra police and civilian police assistants will be drafted in on Friday and Saturday nights as part of a zero-tolerance crackdown against drug-taking, under-age drinking and alcohol- related violence.

In some areas curfews will be imposed, allowing police to clear groups of youths from the street after 9pm. "Curfew zones" will be introduced, from which police may ban individuals for up to 24 hours using an Anti-Social Behaviour Order (Asbo). Anyone who breaches such an order faces a fine of up to £2,500 and a jail sentence.

The measures were prompted by a wave of violent incidents involving teenage gangs including the "happy slapping" craze, where teenagers attack their victim and film the assault on a mobile phone. In May, Tony Blair promised to curb anti-social behaviour and promote a culture of "respect". The Sunday Telegraph has learned, however, that the next set of crime figures, to be released in September, will show that anti-social behaviour has not declined, despite attempts by some towns to deploy "yob-busting" teams. More young people complain of being victims of crime.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We want to ensure that people can go about their business without any problems and the Hertfordshire police and Army link up has provided a useful lesson."

David Davis, the shadow Home Secretary, said: "Bringing in the Army in a few small towns is just a gimmick. It will not solve the problem of yob culture. "This shows Mr Blair's desperation. He has failed to get a culture of respect from yobs. He should concentrate on the causes of crime, not headline-grabbing ideas." - telegraph

Undercover officers tackle disorder

High profile presence at taxi ranks

27/07/2005 - North Tyneside

Plain clothes Northumbria Police officers are mixing with revellers in North Tyneside to ensure any trouble can be nipped in the bud. Teams of officers across the borough are working in plain clothes and calling in arrest teams if they see problems starting to develop. It is just one of the strategies being used as part of the forcewide summer campaign to tackle drunkenness, violence and disorder. 'The party's over' is part of Chief Constable Mike Craik's pledge on total policing to tackle crime at all levels and is supported by Northumbria Police Authority.

In North Tyneside for the week ending July 24, there were more than 50 arrests for assaults, disorder and drunkenness as part of the campaign. Police have also been providing a high profile presence at taxi ranks and Metro stations to ensure people leaving after a night out behave themselves.

Chief Inspector Steve Neill said: " The figures reflect the continuing focus for policing in North Tyneside and providing the service the community wants. " We are getting positive feedback from both the people who live in the area, licensees and those who come to the borough for a night out."

Tyneside, Wearside and Northumberland are amongst the safest places in the country to live. Crime fell by 9% last year and has dropped 32% since the early 90s. - northumbria.police.uk


Police black uniform 'sinister'

Plans for North Wales Police to change their uniform to an all-black outfit have run into opposition. The traditional uniform of white shirt and tie is to be replaced with a black roll-neck top and worn with black combat trousers from the new year. Police officials said the lightweight design was more practical for officers wearing body armour, but some local MPs claimed the look might be intimidating.

Conservative David Jones said it would give officers a "sinister" appearance.

The secretary of the North Wales Police Federation, Richard Eccles, said the current uniform had become outdated. "What we have at the moment are officers wearing a dress shirt and a tie, which often tend to get jammed and clogged up under body armour," he said. "Wearing a thick and heavy protective garment on top of a cotton shirt meant that as soon as you start walking round the officer would be soaked through with sweat. "Combat trousers have already been in circulation for 12 months and it is now hoped to introduce a black garment for officers to wear under their body armour as well.

"There has been no adverse reaction from the public so far and the officers love the idea. "A dress shirt and a tie is great in the office but does not really suit the action police officers often face nowadays."

Public concern

But some local MPs said they were concerned about the connotations of an all-black uniform. David Jones, Conservative MP for Clwyd West said he thought the new uniform might make officers look intimidating.

"I think it would give a sinister, unfriendly appearance to the police, which is exactly the opposite of what the police should be. "I don't think that's the sort of uniform a British police force should be wearing. "I think that the connotations of black shirts are obvious to anybody. They've got a kind of fascist, militaristic appearance. "It may be appropriate for a police force in some tin pot central American dictatorship, but it certainly doesn't belong on the streets of places like Colwyn Bay and Ruthin."

A total of 20 officers from the force have been involved in trials of the new outfit over the last 12 months, and in September the new design was given the go-ahead.

A North Wales Police spokeswoman said: "We have been conducting trials of various uniforms over the last 12 months. "We can confirm that in January all operational officers will be wearing black roll-neck tops."

Strathclyde Police decided to update its uniform in 2002 - the first major change in style since the 19th Century. Switching to an open-necked shirt and black cargo trousers, the force explained the changes had been introduced "to meet the officers' needs and to contribute to the effectiveness of the police uniform".

The force added that the new-style uniform was "more suited to the demands of modern policing". - BBC

Here are some suggestions
for new police uniforms, judging the current climate:

thanks for the pics Kate-O!

As if this isn't sinister enough!!!

'Judge Dredd' powers for police urged

By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor - (Filed: 22/09/2005)

Britain's top police officer was accused last night of paving the way for "Judge Dredd law" by proposing that officers should be allowed to by-pass the courts and confiscate driving licences, seize vehicles and issue anti-social behaviour orders on the spot. The Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said "modernisation" of the force should be carried forward by introducing "an escalator of powers" for the dispensing of instant justice.

"One idea is to have some police officers - paid more and with more powers - to impose an interim anti-social behaviour order, for instance, or suspend a driving licence," he said. This would have an immediate effect rather than waiting for intervention by the courts, Sir Ian suggested.

He acknowledged that giving police powers currently exercised only by the courts would be controversial but could be seen as legitimate if they were used by properly trained constables. "There is something here about making justice more immediately apparent, not only to the offender but also to the society that the offender is irritating," Sir Ian said.

However, Shami Chakrabarti, the director of the human rights group Liberty, said Sir Ian was behaving like Judge Dredd, the post-apocalyptic comic book law enforcer whose catchphrase is "I am the law". She added: "This is more like summary justice which has no place in a democracy. He's supposed to be the Met Commissioner, not Judge Dredd. Sir Ian should concentrate on the difficult job of running the Metropolitan Police rather than working on political speeches arguing for ever more draconian laws."

Is this Judge Dredd enough for you???

But Sir Ian, addressing the annual conference of the Police Superintendents' Association, said it was unsatisfactory that a disqualified driver could be arrested and released, and immediately get back in a car. In such cases, officers should be able to seize the offender's vehicles. "In the same way that we've developed officers with lesser powers, maybe we should develop officers with more powers so they can instantly do things," Sir Ian added. "Instead of saying to a driver, 'We will report you for proceedings to be considered by a court' we say, 'Sorry, your driving licence is now gone and in 14 days it will come up before the court' ." He conceded that such powers should be dispensed with care "and without turning the place into a police state, which would be unfortunate". He added: "I don't want to see this as a massive widening of powers. It is to deal with some very specific issues."

However, colleagues were not convinced. Rick Naylor, the president of the association, said: "We police with consent and part of that is because the public see us as being approachable. If the public fear us more because of increased powers that approachability will be damaged."

Sir Ian also suggested that former soldiers could be trained and deployed as firearms specialists as part of a radical restructuring of police responsibilities and duties.

After being criticised over the shooting of a man mistaken for a suicide bomber in July, he said he was not suggesting bringing in the Army to take over firearms duties but rather hiring ex-servicemen on short-term contracts. Asked if he would resign if he were condemned by the Independent Police Complaints Commission over the shooting, he said: "It depends on the level of condemnation." -.telegraph

What is going on?

We live in an epistemic regime of Doctrines and dogmas

These can be influenced by, used by, even devised by Opportunists and demagogues

Both of the above contribute to The making of laws

How these laws are interpreted and applied depend on the The system of justice

This can be adversarial, inquisitorial, or in rare cases protective - that is, protecting citizens and their families and property from harm from others.

If the system of justice is inquisitorial or harshly adversarial, heavily influenced by doctrines and dogmas and manipulated by opportunists and demagogues, we may have A police state

This results in The suppression of freedom of expression

Including free speech, art, drama, the use of the imagination, the acquiescence of the media, political correctness, and in general Orwellian conditions.

This in turn results in Restriction/suppression of political activity

And in A decrease in the potential for the repeal of laws

A police state exists when federal and state political and police mechanisms:

1. Shut down media coverage after they steal an election
2. Serve the central government instead of serving the citizens
3. Enforce the policies of the central government instead of responding primarily to criminal misdeeds
4. Spy on and intimidate citizens

* In a free society, police agencies respond to evidence of planned and actual criminal activity.
* Police officers in a free society keep the peace; they do not investigate citizens and activities unless there is some reason to investigate.
* In a free society, police do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the central government, only their action.
* Citizen dissent is lawful in a free society and police agencies do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the criminal justice apparatus.






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